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Veneds (Slavs) and Carpathian region:



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Veneds (Slavs) and Carpathian region: Ptolemaios mentions the Veneds / Vends / Wends (probably identical with the Slavs) as one of the big tribes living in Sarmatia, which included the northern Carpathians (known as the Sarmatian Mountains at that time). Therefore, they could not have originated from the supposed "ancient Slavs", the homeland of which is assumed to be behind the Carpathian Mountains, but was never found, and the search is still going on. Thus, the "ancient Slavs" never existed as an one ethnic group. However, the density of the names in question, which he designates as "Slav", is so great, that they under no circumstances could have been a legacy of the supposed sporadic Slav incursions and settlements in this territory. (see http://venedy.blox.pl/ )

Slavs or Slovenian or Slovans were part of Veneds -group of population with a common history, culture and similar languages or dialects was, and is an object of various speculations about the national appurtenance and the character of culture of the settlement. However, history gives evidence that as early as in 5th-7th centuries some tribes of region moving from Danube, Dniester, Prut and Black sea area especially under the pressure of raids of wild nomadic tribes.

During III and IV centuries, between two rivers named Dnestr and Prut, the tribes lived. They created the Cherneahovsky culture ... which included the Venedy, Bastarny, Sarmaty and others

Carpathian Mountain was margin between Ants and Veneds ... anty i venedy priznavali nad soboyu vlast' gunnov: ibo sii zavoevateli vo vremya Attily....

The question of intensity and territorial expansion of the East-Slav influence on the territory of present East Slovakia during earlier historical epochs is still or even now, nevertheless it is incontestable that the territory of the present West-Ukrainian ethnic was settled by people of south-west group of East Slavs.
Until 5th century they have been called Veneds, Anti and Sclavs, later they were termed as Dragi, Dragichs, Rusy (Rosi), Rusyns, Rusyny, later Russian people or Ukrainian people. Since the first half of 9th century the term "rusky" (Ruthenian) - "ruska vira" (Ruthenian Church), "ruska tserkva" (Ruthenian church) have become widely spread

Rus (Ros) is a word which was originally Swedish and meant tribe near Ros Lagen (Lake). The Vikings who set up colonies along the banks of the Dniepr River referred to themselves as Rus. This group gradually extended south toward and beyond Kiev and is today called the Kievan Rus ... Grand Prince of Kiev, Vladimir came together with team from Rus (vikings) to Constantinople (Byzantine) ...

Dragi and Drahichy (Dregovichy) means from tribe of Drags (Drahs) which until 5th c. lived on river Danube (Dunai, Danubius River, Donau, Dunaj )


Carpathian-KarpatyThe chain of Carpathian mountain ranges stretches in an arc from the Czech Republic in the northwest to Slovakia, Poland, Ukraine and Romania in the east, to the Iron Gates on the Danube River between Romania and Serbia in the south. The highest range within the Carpathians are the Tatras, on the border of Poland and Slovakia, where the highest peaks exceed 2600 meters in elevation, followed by the Southern Carpathians in Romania, where the highest peaks exceed 2500 meters in elevation. The Carpathian chain is usually divided into three major parts: the Western Carpathians (Czech Republic, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary), the Eastern Carpathians (Southeastern Poland, Eastern Slovakia, Ukraine, Romania) and the Southern Carpathians (Romania, Serbia)

* * * Czech, Polish, Ukrainian and Slovak: Karpaty; German: Karpaten; Serbian: Karpati

Karloman go over Dunaj, attack Moravany and another Venedy



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